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Old November 28th, 2021, 02:30 PM
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Round 3212: INDAGATE [Call for votes] After a somewhat fraught definition phase, I am now happy to present 14 definitions of indagate. Some of them have come from players’ imaginations, some have come from dictionaries, and one even comes from a dictionary article about the word indagate. Please vote for the ones that appeal to you: vote early, vote twice, in reply to this post, by the deadline, which is Tuesday 30 November 21h30 CET, or earlier if all submitters get their votes in before that.

 1. [Catalan] Mount Etna.
 2. A hermaphrodite penguin.
 3. To save up, as for future use.
 4. Shaped like a paw, said of some leaves.
 5. Scottish. An uninteresting topic of conversation.
 6. Filtration process used in the food services industry to filter, clean and recycle cooking oil.
 7. A type of gate formerly used in cattle ranching, functioning like a valve, allowing cattle into a pen but not back out of it.
 8. A logic circuit whose output is True if all its inputs are True or if at most one is False. [acronym of independent nor-dependent and gate, from an early implementation].
 9. An incompletely dominant coat color pattern characterized by irregularly shaped patches of diluted pigment and solid color.
10. A red gemstone; basically agate colored by indium bromide.
11. Bot. Of leaves: smooth, lacking indentations.
12. A nondescript, a something-or-other.
13. To search into, investigate.
14. Foul, abusive language.

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Old November 28th, 2021, 02:35 PM
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I love the visual order.
I'll go for the leaves (4 and 11).
Deb


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After a somewhat fraught definition phase, I am now happy to present 14 definitions of indagate. Some of them have come from players’ imaginations, some have come from dictionaries, and one even comes from a dictionary article about the word indagate. Please vote for the ones that appeal to you: vote early, vote twice, in reply to this post, by the deadline, which is Tuesday 30 November 21h30 CET<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook..com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.timeanddate.com%2Fworldcloc k%2Ffixedtime.html%3Fmsg%3DDixonary%2520deadline%2 Bfor%2Bvotes%2Bfor%2BINDAGATE%2Bin%2Bround%2B3212% 26iso%3D20211130T2130%26p1%3D328&data=04%7C01%7C%7 Cc3e69df8f2574893eb8c08d9b2addcf6%7C17f1a87e2a254e aab9df9d439034b080%7C0%7C0%7C637737282089714753%7C Unknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoi V2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdat a=%2BrIMbMblhK9CkTA5U947l1ll4L6H5rjhNJtafshT6w8%3D &reserved=0>, or earlier if all submitters get their votes in before that.

 1. [Catalan] Mount Etna.
 2. A hermaphrodite penguin.
 3. To save up, as for future use.
 4. Shaped like a paw, said of some leaves.
 5. Scottish. An uninteresting topic of conversation.
 6. Filtration process used in the food services industry to filter, clean and recycle cooking oil.
 7. A type of gate formerly used in cattle ranching, functioning like a valve, allowing cattle into a pen but not back out of it.
 8. A logic circuit whose output is True if all its inputs are True or if at most one is False. [acronym of independent nor-dependent and gate, from an early implementation].
 9. An incompletely dominant coat color pattern characterized by irregularly shaped patches of diluted pigment and solid color.
10. A red gemstone; basically agate colored by indium bromide.
11. Bot. Of leaves: smooth, lacking indentations.
12. A nondescript, a something-or-other.
13. To search into, investigate.
14. Foul, abusive language.

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Old November 28th, 2021, 03:46 PM
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For the record, Johnny sent this vote to me and not the group:

second and penultimate for me... that is #2 and #13 please
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Old November 28th, 2021, 05:23 PM
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10 and 11, stabbing in the dark.

On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 3:30 PM Paul Keating <dixonary (AT) boargules (DOT) com> wrote:

> After a somewhat fraught definition phase, I am now happy to present 14
> definitions of *indagate*. Some of them have come from players’
> imaginations, some have come from dictionaries, and one even comes from a
> dictionary article about the word *indagate.* Please vote for the ones
> that appeal to you: vote early, vote twice, in reply to this post, by the
> deadline, which is Tuesday 30 November 21h30 CET
> <https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Dixonary%20deadline+for+votes+f or+INDAGATE+in+round+3212&iso=20211130T2130&p1=328 >,
> or earlier if all submitters get their votes in before that.
>
>  1. [Catalan] Mount Etna.
>  2. A hermaphrodite penguin.
>  3. To save up, as for future use.
>  4. Shaped like a paw, said of some leaves.
>  5. *Scottish.* An uninteresting topic of conversation.
>  6. Filtration process used in the food services industry to filter, clean
> and recycle cooking oil.
>  7. A type of gate formerly used in cattle ranching, functioning like a
> valve, allowing cattle into a pen but not back out of it.
>  8. A logic circuit whose output is True if all its inputs are True or if
> at most one is False. [acronym of *i*ndependent *n*or-*d*ependent *a*nd
> *gate*, from an early implementation].
>  9. An incompletely dominant coat color pattern characterized by
> irregularly shaped patches of diluted pigment and solid color.
> 10. A red gemstone; basically agate colored by indium bromide.
> 11. *Bot.* Of leaves: smooth, lacking indentations.
> 12. A nondescript, a something-or-other.
> 13. To search into, investigate.
> 14. Foul, abusive language.
>
>
>
>
>
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Old November 29th, 2021, 02:04 AM
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Old November 29th, 2021, 06:43 AM
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Default [Dixonary] Round 3212: INDAGATE [Call for votes]

I can't think why Catalan should have a different name for Etna, but it's
so unlikely that I'll vote for it, alomg with the vague somthing-or-other:
1 and 12 please.

 1. [Catalan] Mount Etna.

12. A nondescript, a something-or-other.

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Old November 30th, 2021, 05:11 PM
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**

This remark of Efrem’s may have been a purely rhetorical question:

1. [Catalan] Mount Etna. If we allow non-English proper nouns that name
natural features, then anything goes. How about the Nepali name for
Mount Everest, or the Aboriginal name for Botany Bay? (They’re
Sagarmathaand Kamay,if anyone cares.) Could someone deal either of
those, or anything else along those lines?

but, literal-minded programmer that I am, I will respond anyway.

**
**

There was a nearly parallel case in round 974, dealt by Toni Savage. The
Word was tedescoand the dictionary definition, from Chambers, was

German [It.]

**
**

The OED (from 1911) is a little more expansive:

The Italian word for German; esp. used to express Teutonic influence as
shown in some spheres of Italian art.

****

As a sidelight on this: Italian-speaking Swiss use Svizzera tedescato
refer to German-speaking Switzerland.

The parallel is not exact, being an ethnonym rather than a toponym, but
I think it is close. So, such a word has been played, and by a dealer
whom the players subsequently elected to the post of Rules Momma.

There isn’t really a question whether a borrowed ethnonym or toponym is
a suitable choice. We accept any word that comes from a respectable
source. And anyway, this remark isn’t about the dictionary definition,
but about a fake. There is no rule that requires fake definitions to
have to have a respectable provenance; the point of the game is that
they don’t. The “Real” Rulesremark that it is acceptable play to offer
as a definition evident nonsense whose appeal to voters may lie solely
in its comic effect (186).

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Old November 30th, 2021, 05:21 PM
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IIRc it was Theresa Carey who was the Rules Mom.

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On 11/30/2021 6:11 PM, Paul Keating wrote:






This remark of Efrem’s may have been a purely rhetorical question:



1. [Catalan] Mount Etna. If we allow non-English proper nouns that name natural features, then anything goes. How about the Nepali name for Mount Everest, or the Aboriginal name for Botany Bay? (They’re Sagarmatha and Kamay, if anyone cares.) Could someone deal either of those, or anything else along those lines?



but, literal-minded programmer that I am, I will respond anyway.




There was a nearly parallel case in round 974, dealt by Toni Savage. The Word was tedesco and the dictionary definition, from Chambers, was*



German [It.]




The OED (from 1911) is a little more expansive:*



The Italian word for German; esp. used to express Teutonic influence as shown in some spheres of Italian art.




As a sidelight on this: Italian-speaking Swiss use Svizzera tedesca to refer to German-speaking Switzerland.*



The parallel is not exact, being an ethnonym rather than a toponym, but I think it is close. So, such a word has been played, and by a dealer whom the players subsequently elected to the post of Rules Momma.



There isn’t really a question whether a borrowed ethnonym or toponym is a suitable choice. We accept any word that comes from a respectable source. And anyway, this remark isn’t about the dictionary definition, but about a fake. There is no rule that requires fake definitions to have to have a respectable provenance; the point of the game is that they don’t. The “Real” Rules remark that it is acceptable play to offer as a definition evident nonsense whose appeal to voters may lie solely in its comic effect (186).




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Old November 30th, 2021, 08:32 PM
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Paul,

I can't argue with that, nor would I want to, but two thoughts:

(1) "Tedesco" is used in English in the context of Italian art that reflects, in some way, German influence or German style. I would accept it for that reason.

(2) I wasn't saying one can't offer such defs as fakes. I was just using this one's nature as a reason to consider it to be a fake. AFAIK, the Catalan name of Mt. Etna, if it has one, isn't used in English, so it should not (IMHO) qualify as dealable even though anything goes with fakes.

FWIW, I also disparaged the real meaning - as I thought I would - but for a different reason!

Efrem

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> On Nov 30, 2021, at 6:11 PM, Paul Keating <dixonary (AT) boargules (DOT) com> wrote:
>
> This remark of Efrem’s may have been a purely rhetorical question:
> 1. [Catalan] Mount Etna. If we allow non-English proper nouns that name natural features, then anything goes. How about the Nepali name for Mount Everest, or the Aboriginal name for Botany Bay? (They’re Sagarmatha and Kamay, if anyone cares.) Could someone deal either of those, or anything else along those lines?
> but, literal-minded programmer that I am, I will respond anyway.
>
> There was a nearly parallel case in round 974, dealt by Toni Savage. The Word was tedesco and the dictionary definition, from Chambers, was
> German [It.]
>
> The OED (from 1911) is a little more expansive:
> The Italian word for German; esp. used to express Teutonic influence as shown in some spheres of Italian art.
>
> As a sidelight on this: Italian-speaking Swiss use Svizzera tedesca to refer to German-speaking Switzerland.
> The parallel is not exact, being an ethnonym rather than a toponym, but I think it is close. So, such a word has been played, and by a dealer whom the players subsequently elected to the post of Rules Momma.
> There isn’t really a question whether a borrowed ethnonym or toponym is a suitable choice. We accept any word that comes from a respectable source. And anyway, this remark isn’t about the dictionary definition, but about a fake. There is no rule that requires fake definitions to have to have a respectable provenance; the point of the game is that they don’t. The “Real” Rules remark that it is acceptable play to offer as a definition evident nonsense whose appeal to voters may lie solely in its comic effect (186).
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