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Old November 22nd, 2020, 10:41 AM
Johnb - co.uk
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Default [Dixonary] Rnd 3121 Wariangle Results

Well now, a very even round and Dave is the winner and I gained a D3

Take it away Dave


I found this word while reading Tolkeins "Lost Tales"-- Tolkein
apparently worked on the fall of Gondolin using notes on the back of
proof sheets from OED (where he was working) the proof sheets referred
to etymology of Wariangle: this was about 1921 - see extended*etymology
- which sounds remarkably like Tolkein so I have posted most of the OED
Definition last updated 1921

/Obsolete/.*1. A name formerly given to the Shrike or Butcher-bird,
either the (Great or European) Grey Shrike ( /Lanius excubitor/) or the
smaller red-backed Shrike ( /L. collurio/). See shrike n.2 Apart from
the doubtful Old English form and two obscure passages in Middle English
the evidence for the existence of the word is almost solely drawn from
dictionaries, glossaries, and dialect collections of doubtful value,
some of which perhaps merely echo quot. 1598*.

See quotation from Paul a few rounds ago: “Vladimir Nabokov, in a
memorable phrase, called /the nonsense that harmful drudges carefully
transport from one dictionary to another/”

*Etymology: *? Old English /weargincel/ shrike (Sweet: authority not
known). Compare Old High German (Middle High German) /warchengil/ ,
/wargengel/ , /wargingel/ , etc. ‘cruricula’, etc. (Steinmeyer-Sievers,
Diefenbach), German /wargengel/ , /warkengel/ (with very many local
variants due to different etymologizing alterations; as /würgengel/ ,
/quasi/ ‘destroying angel’). Compare also Middle Low German /worgel/ ,
Old High German (Middle High German) /wargil/ , /warigel/ , /wergil/ ,
/worgel/ (Bavarian dialect /wörgl/ shrike, Salzburg /wörgel/
greenfinch). All these forms appear to be diminutives of Old Germanic
/*wargo-z/ murderer: see wary n.

The Old English word, if genuine, perhaps preserves most nearly the
original form. For the suffix compare Old English /húsincel/ ,
/túnincel/ , /þéowincel/ , etc. (all without umlaut). Compare Old High
German /-inklî(n/ . It remains, however, very remarkable that in German
or in later English there is no trace of /-k/ forms with the single
exception of /warwinckle/ in quot. 1618 at sense 1. As there is no
evidence of the word later until Chaucer, the Middle English and later
forms are perhaps in part due to, or influenced by, some continental
form. The prevalent form of the ending, /-angle/, /-ingle/, is perhaps
partly due to association with hang v.(owing to the habits of the
shrike). In early times the first element would assist this etymology:
compare Old English /weargtréo/, warytre n.gallows. Such an association
was apparently present in early German: compare such forms as
/wurgelhâch/, /wurgelhâhe/, /warchengil/, /warkengel/, etc.

1598**T. Speght /Wks. G. Chaucer/ Annot. Bbbb v /Warriangles/ Be a kind
of birdes full of noyse and very rauenous, preying vpon others, which
when they haue taken, they vse to hang vpon a thorne or pricke, & teare
them in pieces and deuoure them. And the common opinion is, that the
thorne wherupon they thus fasten them and eate them, is afterward
poysonsome. In Staffordshire and Shropshire the name is common

*================================================ ======



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Def for Round 3121 Wariangle



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1



seaweed. [Obs. or Prov. Eng.]



Dan



4,9



Efrem



1



3*

2



periodic gathering to evaluate readiness of men for combat



Judy



11,12







3



plate armor to protect the elbow



Efrem



1,9



Debbie E



1



1

4



[Obs.] a name formerly given to the Shrike or Butcher-bird, either the
(Great or European) Grey Shrike ( /Lanius excubitor/) or the smaller
red-backed Shrike ( /L. collurio/).



OED Online 2020





Shani, Paul, Dan



2



D3

5



in a fortification, a corner where an intruder would not expect one



Tim B



8,10







6



a sorcerer or magician



Tim L



8,14



Deborah F



1



1

7



/Obs./*used as a term of contempt or abuse [ME /wari/*'felon, outlaw,
villain' + /engle /young male prostitute]



Paul



4,14



Alan



1



3*

8



befuddled.



Debbie E



10,3



Mike, Tim B



3



3

9



the Eurasian blue tit (Cyanistes caeruleus).



Mike



8,14



Deborah F, Efrem, Dan



3



3

10



bent; crooked



Tony





Tim B, Debbie E,

Alan



3



3

11



n. a structure where two outer walls meet at an acute angle



Deborah F



6,9



Judy



1



1

12



any self-intersecting irregular polygon wherein each acute angle has a
corresponding complementary angle and each obtuse angle has a
corresponding supplementary angle



Ryan





Judy



1



1

13



a metal ring welded to the nose of a bomb to reduce its penetration in
earth or water



Shani



4*, 14







2*

14



(Archaic) a lowland Jute



Dave





Mike, Tim L, Shani, Paul



4



4

*



===no def===



Alan



7,10







Dan



3*

Judy



0

Efrem



1

(JohnnyB)



D3

Tim B



0

Tim L



1

Paul



3*

Debbie E



3

Mike



3

Tony



3

Deborah F



1

Ryan



1

Shani



2*

Dave



4

Alan



0

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